Moy Yat Ving Tsun Kung Fu in Omaha

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  Coralville Kung Fu

  :: 23 April 2018 23:35:54

  This year marks my 20th since meeting the Sifu of this school. I've known him to be a valuable training partner, good friend, dedicated student, and a genuine and humble human being. Just spent a weekend of intense training with Sifu Peder and his students. As a fellow Sifu in our Kung Fu organization, I would like to say how happy I am for anyone fortunate enough to learn Ving Tsun ("Wing Chun") with this man as a guide.

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  Daniel Pratt

  :: 12 March 2018 15:41:20

  This school has a great location just in Dundee I have been training here for years and I'm amazed at how much there is to learn and the practical applications of Kung Fu principles in daily life.

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  Michael Mack

  :: 09 March 2018 15:33:01

  As a former instructor and student of eight years here I can say that the criticisms here, while harsh at times, are valid. It is obvious that some of the critics are former seniors, and at least one other is a former instructor. The Moy Yat system is better than some, but considerably inferior to others , such as the Wong Shun Leung lineage in general, and the Gary Lam schools in particular. This school perverts Chinese traditions to both extract additional money from students, and flip the focus from the student building a solid skill set, to an inappropriate reverence for the teacher as a father figure. Unfortunately, the best wing chun training in Omaha is in the form of satellite clubs operating out of schools in Kansas City and Des Moines. Hopefully one of them will hang a shingle as a school soon.

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  Diligent Student

  :: 08 March 2018 11:08:09

  15 years ago this school was strong, but the Sifu just quit showing up regularly. All of the students who could actually fight left long ago as they didn't want to pay $100 a month to teach class without any real option of becoming a Sifu themselves. Peder (the Sifu who will despise being named here) will never appear in a photo or video, and usually doesn't do anything for a demo when new students arrive. He has fallen out of favor with the Moy Yat lineage as he prefers to speak negatively about the most senior person in his lineage (Moy Tung) and this has led to far fewer training opportunities for his students. He has TOLD STUDENTS he will NEVER TEACH THE WEAPONS. So, if you start getting good, he'll use your "patience" against you to plateau your progress. And this is not traditional... In tradition, you respect your seniors and teach people at their level. Everyone currently training here has trouble answering even basic questions about fighting, and hide behind a thin veil of zen mystique. Most of the good reviews are from a 5+ years ago. I have no idea where all the new negative reviews are coming from, but I can tell you that there are a ton of former students who will never come back, so they are mostly legitimate. I have held my tongue out of martial respect. But I now realize that I don't want people wasting time and money, and thinking this is how 'traditional' wing chun works. This is how a lawyer obfuscating his intent works. Given all of these problems, it's juvenile that the Sifu blames all students and the public's capacity to train traditionally. Martial arts are huge in the USA and especially Omaha, and anyone reading these reviews or paying money WANTS to train. They just don't want to do the same repetitive thing for months with no oversight. Without a Sifu present, drama is far too common without any real resolution. Senior students will quit training with you and put you on mock-trial if you say something they find offensive and sacrilege. It's cowardly. If you're new and ask the wrong questions, they might ignore you for months. The website claims you can be an expert in 3 years. Not here, and you'll never get the weapons, which imply expertise... The Sifu here grew frustrated when his grandmaster trained some of his students in the pole form. He told them NOT TO PRACTICE IT when parallel Moy Yat schools had much newer students training it. This shutting down of learning is too common here. Just go back to slap blocking the next 10 years like a good traditionalist... If you happen to miss the one unpredictable night a month Sifu shows up... Oh well, that's your fault. This place had a ton of potential, and I consider it's current anemic status a tragedy.

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  Gordon Goodly

  :: 05 February 2018 23:50:46

  1- Be ready to train for a year with little or no footwork. 2- A strange hips forward and shoulders back stance makes movement more difficult and destroys your takedown defense. 3- Slavish devotion to centerline theory creates a weakness to hooks and shovel hooks. 4- All of the teaching centers around theory and tradition. Nobody, including the teacher, looks to have any ring or street experience. 5- Worst of all is "lucky money" cash gifts to the teacher despite an abdication of proper teaching for a "journey of discovery" approach, and students not only buying the teacher meals, but playing a nonsense game where they don't allow the teacher to even see the money. Very cultish and odd. Save your $100/month for a place that will focus on practical combat skills.